Having already built a medium and a small DRSSTC, I feel that I have the experience and want the challenge of building a large DRSSTC system.
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I decided to design a high impedance system to run longer on times at a lower primary peak current. The average power flowing in the primary circuit will be the same as a low impedance system, but total cost of the system will be much lower. A MMC is typically much more expensive for a low impedance coil as a large capacitance is needed to work at a resonant frequency around 40 kHz. A high impedance primary coil also have a lot more surface area and will thus not require as much cooling.
When drawing power in the term of up to 10kW, power factor will become a problem.
Since this project have been running over a long period there have been many changes to the core design of the Tesla coil.
Secondary form went from 200 mm diameter to 300 mm diameter.
IGBTs went from CM300 to CM600.
MMC went from 400 nF at 12 kV made out of CDE942C capacitors to a 800 nF at 15 kV made from 5 heavy GTO snubber capacitors that is specified for over 5000 A peak currents.
|Bridge||2x CM600DU-24FA IGBTs in a full bridge configuration|
|Bridge supply||4x 6000uF 350V filtering capacitors, two in series, two string in parallel for 6000uF at 700V.|
|Primary coil||Flat primary. Inner diameter 375 mm, Outer diameter 855 mm. 8 turns 10 mm copper tubing, turn spacing 20 mm|
tapped at 6.75 turns.
|MMC||0.8uF at 15kV. Made from GTO snubber capacitors. 5 in series.|
|Secondary coil||315 mm diameter, 1500 mm long, 1800 windings, 0,75 mm enamelled copper wire.|
|Resonant frequency||Around 38 kHz.|
|Topload||7 rings of 25 mm aluminium tubing forming a toroid.|
|Input power||3x400VAC 16A / 11kW|
|Spark length||3.6 meters|
The driver is a variation of Steve Wards universal driver
24th December 2011
Work on the secondary coil began on Christmas day and lasted until the 6th January 2012 where is had its 7th layer of varnish. The first winding rig fell apart after the 4th layer of varnish and we had to build a better one.
The winding of the secondary coil was done on the first day, in about a total of three hours. The of the time was spent on varnishing. Took 16 hours for each layer to harden before a new layer could be applied.
With the frequency converter set at 70 Hz, the gear ratio and small to large diameter gear gave a winding speed of about 0,5 m/s.
29th December 2011
The primary supports was made from acrylic from the back light panel in computer monitors. It felt somewhat different to work with than new acrylic and it is our theory that the great tensions that it saw doing milling resulted in the catastrophic cracks that eventually led to the death of these supports.
On the 7th of January 2012, we gave up using these. Many hours of work was wasted here and we are now searching for a better material for the supports.
14th May 2012
When I first found these pieces of scrap PVC, my first thought was to use the already made holes to put the leads through and distance the capacitors that way. But recalling that Finn Hammer made a fish bone like skeleton for his MMC, I tried something like it and ended up using all the plastic, even the cut outs that is used for the backbone. The end terminals of 20×10 mm copper is overkill, but was what the scrapyard had at hand that day, they do however make a good connection in the sides for the capacitor strings.
The result is half of the MMC is completed. 0,2uF at 12kV. The completed MMC will be 0,4uF at 12kV.
Upgraded: This MMC will not be used, MMC is upgraded to heavy GTO snubber capacitors, scroll down for further information. This MMC will be used in a smaller Tesla coil.
17th and 18th May 2012
New primary supports was made from scrap PVC, I found some good pieces of 20 mm thick PVC to use for these.
The enclosure have been put together with wheel mounted, the primary platform is raised from the enclosure to allow for taking the complete Tesla coil apart, make connections of cables and possible water cooling easier and to gain distance to metal objects in respect to the primary coil.
The enclosure and primary platform is entirely put together with only glue and wooden nails, nearest metal in the current construction is the wheels at the bottom.
6th October 2012
Copper bus bars for the bridge and spacers for capacitor mounting machined and milled. 260 mm² copper bars are used for the DC connection with the capacitors.
20th October 2012
Material for topload toroid construction was bought cheap from the scrap yard. 7 large rings of 25 mm diameter coaxial antenna cable, aluminium shield with PE foam filling and copper tubing core.
Started construction of full bridge
IGBTs mounted on heat sink, support for capacitors constructed and capacitors mounted on IGBTs. Construction of 3 phase rectifier bridge on heat sink and preparing mounting on the bridge supports.
3rd November 2012
Finished installation of wheels on the enclosure and secondary coil was sawn over in both ends to get the right secondary tube length.
10th November 2012
Winding of the two GDTs, etching of gate PCBs and soldering of the gate PCBs and the GDTs.
Mounted 3 phase bridge rectifier, DC cables, snubber capacitors and TVS strings.
24th December 2012
Installation of fan in the enclosure, installation of bridge module in the enclosure and finding a solution to keep the GTO snubber capacitors in place.
29th December 2012
Driver PCB almost completely populated, only a few components missing that are currently in the mail.
Winding of the two current transformers for feedback for frequency tracking and over current protection.
All the bus-bar work have been done, in 30×10 mm copper and brass.
The new MMC consists of five 4 uF capacitors at 3 kVDC in series for a 0,8 uF MMC at 15 kVDC, here it is installed with the bridge.
1st May 2013
Bench test of driver was carried out. This is Steve Wards universal driver 2.1 converted to single sided board for through hole components only. Still some bugs and misroutings that was worked out during the test. The pulse width limiting network was bridged over as it caused some oscillations that made the driver turn the output on despite no input from the interrupter.
21st August 2013
The primary lead and tap is constructed from three pieces of 35 mm² cable connected to a heavy distribution net clamp through home made cable lugs made from 10 mm copper tubing, all soldered together using a gas camping stove.
28th August 2013
Video of the driver behaving very odd. Very glitchy switching can occur but it can also run fine. As it can be heard in the video this is not a switching sound you want to hear in a feedback regulated circuit that should be stable. 225VDC on the bus and switching 400A in the primary circuit.
Steve Ward found out that the problem is residual charge in the tank capacitor in the primary circuit that, depending on it being positive or negative, can influence on the driver and give it a bad start that can last for several cycles before it gets back on track.
30th August 2013
At first I thought that the problem was to be found on the driver board and thus have tried several improvements to limit the amount of noise that could be inflicted on the driver from the switching of huge currents. 10uF Tantalum capacitors was added close to the 74HC08 AND gate IC and the MAX913 comparator IC in the feedback circuit. Ferrite beads was added to the positive and negative rails for the same ICs. Pull-up resistors was added to the outputs from the MAX913 comparator IC.
None of these improvements helped in regard to the glitches in the switching.
The solution to this problem is adding a large power resistor across the output of the inverter to burn off this small charge between bursts. A resistor in the range of 10K Ohm and a suitable wattage according to inverter output voltage is needed, normally a bleeder resistor for a capacitor would be placed directly across the capacitor terminals, but we would then need a high voltage resistor that can withstand the tens of kV that the tank capacitor sees.
This video shows a static load test with 225VDC on the bus and primary circuit switching 1000A.
20th April 2014
I installed a bleeder resistor across the inverter output to take care of the residual capacitor charge as described above. The resistor is made from three 2KΩ 75W resistors in series for a 6KΩ resistor.
DC bus voltage on multimeter to the left. Yellow trace on oscilloscope is primary current, blue trace is inverter output voltage.
The load in place instead of the secondary coil is a metal container with water in it, primary coil got hand warm from a total of 4-5 minutes run time at 1500W input power, IGBT and MMC stayed cold.
This test is limited by my mains supply available, it is only 230VAC at 6 Ampere.
In the first clip the primary current peaks at 1440 Ampere at 300 uS on time at 120BPS. 320 VDC on the bus and load on mains varies from 4 to 6 Ampere at 250VAC.
In the second clip a low 4BPS gives a peak current of 1640 Ampere at 300 uS on time. DC bus voltage is 370VDC.
12th July 2015
We built a quick solution for a motorized tubing roller, the coaxial antenna cable outer aluminium shell is very soft and can be bent easily with a moderate force. A few pictures of how it looked when picked up at the scrap yard.
After the first run all the circles are almost in a good enough shape to mount on the arms of the topload skeleton. Only a few of the rings was run through twice to get them round enough.
The rings are mounted with rivets from inside of the arm. Unfortunately the thin walled aluminium shell of the cable was not strong enough to resist a bit of handling and came loose at a few points. We had to use cable ties to secure all of the tubes at each point, by making a cross it does not look THAT terrible if a better solution is not found.
The ends of the secondary wire was secured at the bottom earth connection and to the topload insert mount. A nylon plug in the bottom is used to secure the secondary coil to the base of the primary coil with a simple knock in split for easy dis- / assembly.
The massive and towering look of the topload placed on top of the secondary coil. The driver and power electronics box and elevated primary platform will raise the coil even further so it will stand a total of 2,8 meters.
31st March 2016
The first time it was possible for us to make a test on full power from a 3×400 VAC / 16 A supply. To initially see if things would run smooth, a 3 phase 6 A variac stack was used to ramp up the voltage.
To our big surprise we were able to produce up to 3.6 meter sparks from a supply that we thought would be inferior to the coils power demands. We did however not trip any breakers or even have the OCD at 1500 A blink at all.
The reason why the OCD never tripped once when set for a modest 1500 A is because of the built in over-current protection in the IGBT bricks, a small RTC element shuts the gate off at 1200 A. I will have to open up the IGBT modules and cut the wires going from the RTC element to the gate in order to run these at much higher peak currents.
These ground strikes was achieved with a settting around 350 BPS at 200 uS on-time.
With the raised breakout point the total height of the coil is now up at 3 meters.
10th September 2016
After cutting out the bonding wires to the RTC circuit of the CM600DU-24FA IGBT bricks, which we thought could be one of the reasons that we were not able to trip the 1500 A OCD setting, we had a short test run to witness performance. I made a video with more details of the real-time current control removal.
While it might have limited the operation a little bit, it was nowhere near hindering performance, this coil is just so high impedance that it runs long on-times instead of high peak currents.
Fed with 3×400 VAC through a variac resulted in a 0.6 power factor. After roughly 8-10 test runs at up to 2 minutes, with peak power consumption hitting 14 kW at 500 BPS, 200uS, the total power consumption over all the tests was 0.281 kW/h, 0.331 kVAr/h and 0.438 kVA/h.
First video shows the coil running 120-500 BPS at somewhere around 200 uS on-time. Peak power consumption from the 3×400 VAC supply was around 14 kW. Sparks are 3 meters to ground and somewhat shorter to the ladder.
Second and third video show tests with a static load, peaking at about 10-14 kW depending on MIDI or interrupter is used.
With a time span of 4 years from first winding started rolling onto the secondary form till we have 3.5 meter sparks flying from it, it can easily be concluded that a project like this takes a long while to complete when having a normal family life on the side.
Initial results are highly satisfying as there are clearly room for improvement and still a lot of head room in power consumption.
31st March 2016
Video from the first full power test, but not yet properly fine tuned for maximum spark length.
Video of the first MIDI played on the coil. Portal – Still Alive was a appropriate choice for its lyrics.
“This was a triumph! I’m making a note here: Huge success!
It’s hard to overstate my satisfaction.“
49 thoughts on “Kaizer DRSSTC III”
Amazing job you are doing. Clearly you are a details person.
Nice Job! anyway, where is the output? =) this sure makes massive sparks
Thanks and this coil is not done yet, there is still a lot of work to do before first light 🙂
we (your fans) can’t wait to see it =) good luck on your coiling! more power to you and your coil
Hi there, your project is truly amazing and looks proffesional. I just have a quick question about my drsstc. I got two cm300 12nf in full bridge with two 5600 uf 450v capacitor and my secondary is a 10″ by 48″ long. I just bought some 26 awg wire and im wondering if use it would my resonance frequency be two low? Or should i bite the bullet and by a bigger wire gauge? Thanks chris
you can use Javatc calculator,. thanks.
Mads sorry to post this in the comments but has Chris let the 4hv forums domain expire?
All I know is there was supposed to be a server migration, something went wrong and he is currently working on restoring the forum from the latest backup 🙂
Thanks for the update Mads.
The error page I was getting made it look like the domain had expired, but thankfully that is not the case. Hopefully Chris doesn’t encounter too much trouble in restoring it.
my dear, if u send me ur machine running video then i shall try to contact with u
Just wondered what value inductor you had to use for phase lead on the drsstc-iii? My current project is very similar and runs at around 40 KHz, but can’t seem to get anywhere near the right value. My bridge output and current are still pretty far apart, with resultant bad ringing even with only 100v input.
if you only have single phase, how would you power your coil if you only 220v Ac max?I built a similar set up but need to figure how to give my coil more power.
I use a Coilcraft SLOT TEN-5-10. I have only had it bench tested as you see in the video, so full voltage bench testing / real spark loading test have not shown if I can hit near ZCS.
If you only have single phase supply available, your best performance increase would be from a active PFC frontend. A passive inductor PFC could also help some. Other than that you are limited to find a outlet with bigger fuses and maybe add a voltage doubler to your rectifier section.
Thanks mads, maybe il try and build a voltage doubler on the rectifier side. What size of caps do you recommend if I were to use two of them to keep with powering my coil?
I think that 6000 uF is even on the low side in this size coil and it properly is going to be upgraded in the future. A rough estimate is that you should have 50 times the energy in your DC filter capacitors that your MMC can store.
Got lost browsing some of your other projects while looking for info on induction heaters. This is some crazy stuff. Very very impressive work. Now you need to figure out how Tesla used this to EXTRACT energy instead of consuming energy. 😉
Thank you for the kinds words 🙂
I do not do over-unity or free energy research, so any extraction of power would be from the very high regions in our atmosphere, but any project of this size is nowhere possible for a single person 🙂
The losses in Tesla coils are large and using one as a antenna to extract energy, in these sizes it would only be harvesting energy from other electromagnetic fields generated by humans and per say just a highly inefficient way of getting “free” energy, free as in you make someone else pay for it.
Very impressive coil. I am in the process of building something similar using 4 x CM600HA-24H in a full bridge. Do you know the max ZVS frequency these should be driven at?
Also, I will soon have access to a 3-phase (3 x 230v) + neutral supply. If I use a 3-phase rectifier is it OK to feed the DC output of a 3-phase bridge rectifier into a pair of capacitors forming a voltage doubler with the line neutral as the 0v ref, to give me 680v DC? Please see sketch. I know this will work for a single phase but haven’t got my head round 3-phase yet.
Hello, are Cesare, i’ve left a comment to your channel YouTube. I started my project for drsstc because I would like to present it as project for the examination for diploma. I have always loved these powerful machines but i’ve never had the opportunity to do so, up to this year. I have read many of your pages on your site online . Despite this, I don’t have clear of things, I don’t is clear the connection of the primary Circuit. as connects to the mains? if you can you explain the links needed to be carried out with a scheme? regarding the resonant frequency of the primary, you must take into account the condenser tank or all capacitors? thank you infinitely in advance for your precious recommendations. look forward to a reply. sincerely Cesare.
I can not find the comment on my youtube channel. I suggest that you sign up to the new forum at https://highvoltageforum.net and make a thread in the Tesla coil section, it makes it much easier to show your project and for more people to help you 🙂
Hello, would this controller be useful for such a large coil? These controllers are sold on aliexpres, thank you very much in advance.
This thread has links to some Chinese DRSSTC driver issues/problems: https://highvoltageforum.net/index.php?topic=573.0 that might be good to read first. Generally they have very bad documentation in English. The driver in your picture has a output stage that can properly drive a CM300 bridge just fine.